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Wait A Minute, Barack Actually Won New Hampshire
January 10th, 2008
Yes, Hillary won the popular vote, but Barack won what counts, the delegates. And no, we’re not going to go back and checking dimpled chads
Final: The New Hampshire delegate breakdown
Posted: 12:04 AM ET
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In the New Hampshire Democratic primary
CNN estimates:
* Hillary Clinton has won 9 New Hampshire delegates (3 statewide, 6 district-level)
* Barack Obama has won 9 New Hampshire delegates (3 statewide, 6 district-level)
* John Edwards has won 4 New Hampshire delegates (2 statewide, 2 district-level)
* 22 Democratic delegates were at stake in the New Hampshire primary
* There are also 8 Democratic “superdelegates” in New Hampshire. Of those, 2 support Clinton and 3 support Obama, according to a CNN survey.
The Superdelegets are people who get handed a delegate just because of who they are. In the end Obama got 12, Clinton got 11.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
So practically she still lost! But she did succeed in saving her campaign.
To understand super delegates read the following from CNN:
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Total Delegates* - This number includes pledged delegates and superdelegates
• There are currently 4,049 total delegates to the Democratic National Convention, including 3,253 pledged delegates and 796 superdelegates. The total number of delegate votes needed to win the nomination is 2,025.
• Superdelegates in the Democratic Party are typically members of the Democratic National Committee, elected officials like senators or governors, or party leaders. They do not have to indicate a candidate preference and do not have to compete for their position. If a superdelegate dies or is unable to participate at the convention, alternates do not replace that delegate, which would reduce the total delegates number and the “magic number” needed to clinch the nomination.”
www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D
Actually since the Superdelegates don’t have to commit to their vote, I think until the convention, it’s officially a 9 to 9 tie right now; but if they keep their votes where they are pledged right now, it will end up being a 1 delegate win in New Hampshire for Barack.
A major thing that’s probably going to keep Barack from winning, if nothing else, is that the establishment is firmly behind Clinton. She’s only earned 24 delegates in the two elections but she already has a total of 183 delegates because of the superdelegates (the party bosses) pledges. Obama has earned 25 delegates in the voting but only has 78 total delegates do to much less superdelegate support. He’s beating Hillary on the total popular vote so far, but he’s more than double behind her in total combined prospective and earned delegates.
In the New Hampshire Republican primary
CNN estimates:
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* John McCain has won 7 New Hampshire delegates
* Mitt Romney has won 4 New Hampshire delegates
* Mike Huckabee has won 1 New Hampshire delegate
* 12 GOP delegates were at stake in the New Hampshire primary
* All GOP delegates at stake in the New Hampshire primary are statewide
And in all my mocking of Hillary isince my post last night I forgot to acknowledge something that I haven’t heard anyone else mention either:
Hillary Clinton just became the first woman to win a Presidential Primary or Caucus (popular vote any). No matter what you think of her either way, and clearly I don’t think to highly of her; that’s one for the record books. She etches out her own place in history just for that.
And if you’re wondering, no Obama was not the first Black to do it, Jesse Jackson won multiple primaries in ’84, then again in ’88.
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I knew it would work something like electoral votes vs popular votes, I was thinking that the whole time, what if a Hillary got the popular vote, but not the delegate vote; I didn’t know how the delegate votes would correlate with the precincts. So yes, this is exciting news. It’s possible for Obama to carry NH at the democratic convention.
You also typed Super “deletes” above the second set of pictures of Obama and Clinton.
Yeah MrsG, and it’s funny how the media never explains this process and talk about who won what delegates for the night. And when I say ‘funny’ I mean a crying freaking shame, and another testiment to media laziness and deception.
I’ve been followin presidential races since ‘88 and I didn’t know it worked like this. I knew there were delegates, but I didn’t know you could lose the popular vote and get the same number of delegates as the winner; nor did I know about these pre-ordained super delegates.
Thanks for the heads up on the spelling.
Hillary is a master manipulator and the Clintons think the presidency is a family job, just like the Bushes. This has GOT to stop. SOmeone should tell Bill that there are term limits on his presidency. I used to like him alot til I found out how he ignored Rwanda and did little to stop Bin Laden.
Go Barack, GO!
I am still so confused on this election thing.. Not really the process but the counting of the votes. Even after HS economics and College economics and political studies… I mean shouldn’t the most popular vote win? I don’t know.. anyway, I’m glad Obama actually won New Hampshire! even though I’m confused on the vote count… He has my vote. I’m ready for a change…
Peace Yabachi,
Sincere
I was unaware of the superdelegates, that was informative. This is going to be a very tight election.
I just can’t believe people thought that Jesse should be president. Kudos to Hillary for making history though. I hope that Kerry’s backing will give a huge bump to Obama.
Let us please boycott Clinton appearances in South Carolina.
It doesn’t surprise me that the establishment, like the current occupant of the office, doesn’t want to relinquish their vice-like grip of power, and is willing to rig and election on the Democrat side as well.
Barack Obama is a freaking visionary, and that’s what bothers me about black people, he isn’t promising anything more than entree into the political stage to do his best to promote justice. This is not a time to cower it is a time for courage. Stand up to the establishment so-called democratic candidate and stand for change. Real change. Change we can believe in.
I was pretty unaware of them as well Mike. I’ve watched and read tons of news regarding the elections for months; and if I hadn’t stumple upon this info while looking for something else; I would still yet have heard nothing about this cycle.
Natalie, I was suprised Kerry didn’t stick with the establishment and support Clinton.
I doubt if it’ll give a huge bump Natalie; but it may help.
Salt, she’s not actually rigging the election, the process is already rigged in her favor.
Ronita, I think more and more people are waking up to the Clinton’s as they expose themselves recently with their dirty behavior.